Last Day Birth Pangs Increase – Tom Donnan
Last Day Birth Pangs Increase
Tom Donnan
Pastor Bob Thibodeau welcomes back Tom Don to discuss the urgent topic of prophecies unfolding in today’s world, particularly the implications of a potential widespread power grid failure. As they delve into Tom’s vivid dream experiences, which foreshadow societal upheaval and the necessity for spiritual preparedness, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own faith and readiness for the challenges ahead. The conversation explores the intersection of current events—like the housing market’s instability and natural disasters—with biblical prophecy, emphasizing that these occurrences are not mere coincidences but signs of the times. With a blend of urgency and hope, they urge Christians to strengthen their foundations in Jesus Christ and remain steadfast amid increasing chaos. Ultimately, the episode serves as a call to action for believers to embrace their faith actively and prepare for the days to come.
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Transcript
Welcome to the Kingdom Crossroads podcast with Pastor Bob Thibodeau.
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Speaker A:Now, here is your host with today's interview, Pastor Bob Thibodeau.
Speaker B:Hello, everyone everywhere.
Speaker B:Pastor Robert Thibodeau here.
Speaker B:Welcome to the Kingdom Crossroads podcast today.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Hallelujah.
Speaker B:We're just talking Tom Donna, who is our guest today.
Speaker B:We're talking about the faith based business podcast there for a little bit.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:But Tom Don is back.
Speaker B:Today we're going to talk about prophecy coming to pass in these last days.
Speaker B:As the last day birth pangs are beginning to increase.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Hallelujah.
Speaker B:Welcome back to the program, Tom Donna.
Speaker B:Tom, good to have you back again, buddy.
Speaker C:Pastor BOB oh, it's always fun to be able to sit down and chat with you and catch up, see what's going on and how God is leading us down a path with a bright and exciting future.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:As we get ready to get started, I want to try and pick your memory a little bit because a couple years ago we were doing an interview and I think we had a discussion about the Lord showed you a massive power grid failure that was going to happen in the last days.
Speaker B:Do you recall that discussion?
Speaker C:I do.
Speaker C:You know, and I think it made it easy because I saw that on the day that Russia invaded the Ukraine.
Speaker C:th of:Speaker C:And so in that experience, I try to help people understand that that the Lord shows me dreams, visions, and sometimes he takes me somewhere.
Speaker C:And when I experience these things, it's.
Speaker C:It's like living it.
Speaker C:And sometimes I will tell you I am living this.
Speaker C:And so it's very powerful and it's easy for me to be able to remember.
Speaker C:But there was three messages that I had to sort through.
Speaker C:And the first one was is that I was in a park where the ground was breaking up.
Speaker C:Sometimes, you know, a crack of six inches, and sometimes the crack was two feet.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:And so I had to leave the park area for my own safety and I had to bridge over some of the cracks and I went over to a house in a bedroom community.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:And so I was there and then all of a sudden I Realized, well, wait a minute, this house is empty.
Speaker C:Why is this house empty?
Speaker C:And I went in there into the house and I got a short handled shovel and I got out of the house.
Speaker C:And just as I got out of the house, it sank into the ground up to the roof, right?
Speaker C:And then the third one was, is that there was a shockwave.
Speaker C:I was in a strong foundation.
Speaker C:This is what you and I have been doing for a long time now, trying to get people to be on the strong foundation of Jesus Christ.
Speaker C:And I was in a very strong foundation when a lateral shockwave hit the foundation, almost knocked me off my feet, and stuff was falling on the floor and people were picking stuff up because I wasn't alone in this foundation.
Speaker C:And I decided to go above ground to find out what was going on.
Speaker C:And as I walked out, what happened is that I went right into a grocery store and it was panic, right?
Speaker C:There's no electricity, so they got the cash register open and people are trying to buy stuff with money.
Speaker C:And I'm trying to explain to the cashier, listen, this is serious.
Speaker C:This is, this is like really widespread.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And she just couldn't grasp it, Couldn't grasp it at all.
Speaker C:And so finally I wound up leaving the store and getting out of that turmoil.
Speaker C:And I went to a parking garage where I was in the lobby and some people are waving to me right there, two, two people in the car and they're waving at me.
Speaker C:And I thought, well, they came to pick me up, but when they came over to the door, they realized, oh, that ain't the guy I'm looking for, you know?
Speaker C:And they, they wound up trying to push through traffic to get out of there.
Speaker C:And that's when I heard the, the audible voice of the Lord speak.
Speaker C:And he said, time to separate yourselves, time to separate yourself.
Speaker C:And so that's where not good to be out in society.
Speaker C:And we can see how that is very plausible.
Speaker C:Now, let's just pull in another thing here where I believe that the power grid had gone down.
Speaker C:It was widespread.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:I couldn't articulate it.
Speaker C:In the beginning, the financial ground was breaking up when Russia invaded the Ukraine.
Speaker C:And so then it expanded to where the safe haven was housing.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So then what happened is that now we're watching across the country, there are strong spots here and there, but now the housing market is sinking down and the commercial market is a disaster.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So now, now the second one has happened and then the third one is literally right on the horizon.
Speaker C:Now let's throw this in because you and I were talking about this earlier is that we just had five days of very terrible X class flares that had taken place where the earth was inundated with these radiations from the sun, from the flares.
Speaker C:And I was able to see the northern lights for the second time in my life once I was about 10 years old and living in the city of Chicago.
Speaker C:That's how bright it was, is that I could see it.
Speaker C:And then when I went outside this time I was able to see it because the camera could see it.
Speaker C:Mikey, naked eye couldn't see it.
Speaker C:And I'll tell you, it was emotional, it was a more.
Speaker C:It's beautiful, very beautiful.
Speaker C:Carrington event that in the:Speaker C:It was all chaotic because of the intensity of the X square.
Speaker C:And then we have this, this message from Perry Stone, right where Perry Stone is giving a bit of information.
Speaker C:We have the link for people to be able to listen to.
Speaker C:And it's short, you know, when you're, when you're perusing the, the YouTube, first thing you look at is oh, how long is this thing?
Speaker B:Right, Exactly.
Speaker C:No, yeah, so but this one's about 10 minutes, it might say 15 minutes.
Speaker C:But he's always got stuff at the end, but it's about 10 minutes.
Speaker C:And he says that, that he has credible sources that are saying that the plan for the grid to go down, the national grid to go down and they think that it could possibly go as long as three weeks because once it goes down it just doesn't come back up.
Speaker C:What do you think?
Speaker B:Right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:And you know, I was looking, doing some research, this is probably six months ago or something on this topic and they said that, you know, one EMP detonated over the United States would knock the power grid out.
Speaker B:But it's not just going to be a couple weeks.
Speaker B:No, it'll take a couple years to rebuild it.
Speaker B:And you're talking, I mean think about, you know, 100 years ago with the power grid went out.
Speaker B:Most people didn't have electricity in their houses anyway.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:50 years ago it'd been a major ordeal, but they'd have got by with it because how many houses actually had air conditioning?
Speaker B:You know, now you got these high rise apartments and all this stuff and condominiums and hospital.
Speaker B:Every place is air conditioned and it's sealed up tight to conserve energy so the air AC doesn't get out and are allowed to heat in.
Speaker B:Well, when the power gear goes out there is no ac.
Speaker B:Those places are going to get hot.
Speaker B:And can you imagine walking down 15 floors to go use the bathroom because your toilet water, the, there's no water, no running water, you know, so the toilets aren't going to work.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:The sewage is backed up, there's no fresh water.
Speaker B:So you got to walk down to maybe porta potties, maybe if you're lucky, you know, imagine what they'd smell like after a little while because there's no gas for the trucks to come empty them out and stuff.
Speaker B:I mean, this is a serious, serious situation and it will happen.
Speaker B:I mean, it's going to happen at some point in time.
Speaker B:This will be what we're facing.
Speaker B:And it's not just going to be here in the United States because once they hit us, we hit them and then everybody else gets involved and you know, it'll be a worldwide catastrophe.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, okay, so it becomes very serious now when you're Talking about an EMP, electromagnetic pulse in a two year solution, they estimate that 90% of the population will have passed because of that.
Speaker C:And so that'll be devastating.
Speaker C:And so when I was thinking, okay, I'm doing, I've been preparing myself for at least three weeks of lack of power.
Speaker C:And then it became important, okay, how do I get the toilet to function?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Okay, So I got, I could see a little lake here.
Speaker B:I could go over there and get.
Speaker C:Some water and use it, you know, and then run it through.
Speaker C:But that, that doesn't work because they have these things in the sanitation department that are called lift stations.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Where you got a community and all this stuff flows into this, this hole in the ground and then they lift it to another place.
Speaker C:Well, when that gets full, then everything starts backing up.
Speaker C:So you might have two days maybe that you could do that.
Speaker C:And then the system is going to be backing up.
Speaker C:And then if it backs up, it means that, oh man, it could be in my house.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:And so that became a serious concern.
Speaker C:So this is no little thing having the power grid go down.
Speaker C:Look at what's happening in Florida, you know, or in North Carolina, South Carolina, no being without power and we are so spoiled by the conveniences that this would really throw us into a dire need in some situations.
Speaker C:Now, which comes back to where you and I have been talking about how we've been trying to get people prepared for years of the stuff that is coming.
Speaker C:Because regardless of what happens in the world, we're converging on the book of Revelations, right?
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker C:It's so.
Speaker C:And there are so few people, people who are prepared even.
Speaker B:There's really no way you can prepare for that because as you said, everything's going to get backed up.
Speaker B:The big cities, you know, they're gonna go flooding the grocery stores.
Speaker B:Okay, no big deal.
Speaker B:Maybe one or two days, all the grocery stores will be out of food.
Speaker B:There's no resupply coming because there's no trucks running because they can't get fuel to, to do anything.
Speaker B:And you're gonna be on your own.
Speaker B:You know, my wife and I got a little vegetable garden out here.
Speaker B:That thing would probably be raided in a couple weeks by the neighbors.
Speaker B:Yeah, stuff, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, it's, you know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker B:And, but that's, that all goes to the point of will we be out of here on the first load before this happens?
Speaker B:I mean, that's, you know, that's my prayer.
Speaker B:But, you know, recently, if you put information like this out, you put a discussion, I can imagine some of the comments we'll get on YouTube just for talking about this.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But that's okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's social media.
Speaker B:Unless you're showing cat pictures and what you're having for breakfast, nobody wants to listen to what you have to say, you know, and there's been a lot of discussion about having to control the content on social media.
Speaker B:So naturally, you know, it's usually, not all the time is usually the left pushing this new agenda.
Speaker B:Forget about free speech because that's too dangerous, you know.
Speaker B:But did you see Tulsi Gabbard having a discussion on this?
Speaker C:Well, that was a turn of events, you know, that she's a, an amazing woman.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:And was she governor of Hawaii?
Speaker B:Governor, A senator, but she was a Democrat, I believe, and became, you know, kind of gave all that up.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:She said this is, this is not what I was believing in when I, when I first started this.
Speaker C:And so she has been.
Speaker C:Her faith has enabled her to be strong, living in the palm of, of God's hand, in palm of Jesus hand, moving forward, believing he's going to take care of her.
Speaker C:And she is saying stuff that is definitely powerful.
Speaker C:And I think the biggest point that she comes to is that the Democrat party has left faith, has left God.
Speaker C:They have been forsaking him.
Speaker C:And so that little 13, 14 minute clip there where she's being interviewed, she lays it all out about how it's a godless organization and how strongly and vehemently they are leaving faith in God Behind.
Speaker C:Well, that's a recipe for disaster.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What was it two elections ago where the Democrat party didn't even put God in the platform?
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker C:Yeah, he had a moment of silence there to skip over the God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, so what does that tell you?
Speaker C:ses, you know, in Deuteronomy:Speaker C:I often reference this because it's important, because we're living these consequences where the first 15 verses are the blessings for following God, and then the two thirds of the chapter are what's going to happen.
Speaker C:But there is a pivotal point in the Curses for the Consequences that take place in verse 20.
Speaker C:And in verse 20, it reads, the Lord will send on you curses, confusion, rebuke, and everything you put your hand to until you are destroyed and come to sun ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.
Speaker C:Now, this is what we're seeing.
Speaker C:We're seeing that the elitists are forsaking God and we are reaping the consequences.
Speaker C:And I think it's becoming more relevant.
Speaker C:We talk about the scenario where there's like, rings, right?
Speaker C:Stuff is happening on the outside rings, and it affects the people, and they wake up, and then the ring becomes a little closer and a little closer and a little closer, and it's hitting more people, and more people are starting to wake up.
Speaker C:And that is what we would like to see.
Speaker C:But, you know, it's wisdom or experience, Right.
Speaker C:When you hear somebody that has the wisdom to be able to say, listen, we're going down a bad road, we need to turn around.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:A lot of people aren't getting that.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:You know, like I said, they've forsaken God.
Speaker B:And since they're not turning to God and they know this is outside of their control, a lot of them are turning to the occult, you know, and like, Tipping Point Ministry released a video of occult practices being performed right now in all places.
Speaker B:The White House.
Speaker B:I mean, now the leadership of this nation not only forsakes the God of our founding fathers, but they're replacing him basically with Satan worship in some form or fashion.
Speaker B:What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker C:Well, I spent the last 18 months doing research in a town that's nearby me about why there is no spiritual activity taking place in this town and why are the churches dying?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So I've had people say, well, listen, Tom, aren't they dying all over the place?
Speaker C:And the truth is, yes, but it seems to Be a point where the Lord is telling me, focus on this.
Speaker C:So I did.
Speaker C:So I started digging into the surface down.
Speaker C:You know, they started with a vision of something buried in the ground.
Speaker C:And that started me on this adventure.
Speaker C:And I started asking questions and hit brick walls.
Speaker C:And then eventually what happened is that usually when you have intercessors that will intercede for sins, it's normally the, like human sins, you know, adultery, you know, stealing, lying, cheating, you know, the Ten Commandments type of stuff.
Speaker C:But then all of a sudden, I preached into this second layer, this dark layer where the occult practices were happening.
Speaker C:On the south end of the community.
Speaker C:There was occult rituals and sacrifices taking place on the north end.
Speaker C:There was witchcraft that was taking place on the east.
Speaker C:On the west side, there was an Indian, more or less, a shaman or a witch doctor had done something that had tainted this area.
Speaker C:And then you got the west side.
Speaker C:And I can't even describe that because I'd probably be, you know, in trouble.
Speaker C:But there is a.
Speaker C:Like an open sewer that is in a location there.
Speaker C:And I went into it and I came out of it and I thought, oh man, I made a mistake by going in there.
Speaker C:And so what happens is that this community, I describe it in the Bible says, describes it as a brass ceiling over this community.
Speaker C:So you don't have the spiritual life of God coming down, and you don't have the spiritual life connect, trying to connect with God taking place because you have this capped off.
Speaker C:It comes down to I was reading the Bible in Ezekiel and it caught my attention.
Speaker C:And the attention is that detestable practices, Right?
Speaker C:Well, they don't mean nothing to me.
Speaker C:But when I started looking into the research, what happened is that, no, this is serious to God.
Speaker C:Detestable practices and abomination are connected laterally.
Speaker C:And it is really high on his.
Speaker C:His emotions and his feelings and position and rules and standards and stuff to where he says, okay, you're gonna.
Speaker C:You're gonna turn yourselves over to these entities.
Speaker C:I'm stepping back.
Speaker C:I'm taking all my blessings away.
Speaker C:I'm taking all my life away.
Speaker C:And now you can have a dry, barren land.
Speaker C:We got this going on in our nation's capital.
Speaker C:We got this going on in different places across the country.
Speaker C:I mean, it's just proliferating.
Speaker C:People want a good, comfortable life that we're living, thinking that, okay, this isn't going to harm us.
Speaker C:No, we're about to cascade off a cliff and something doesn't change.
Speaker C:What do you think?
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:And once you get closer and closer to the edge of the cliff, the easier it is to push you over the edge.
Speaker B:You know, while you still a long ways back, you start digging your heels in, try and change direction and try and slow down the momentum.
Speaker B:But once you're too close to the edge, that momentum will take you over.
Speaker B:Even if you hit the brakes, all of a sudden it's too late.
Speaker B:And I think that's where we're at now.
Speaker B:I mean, we're, we're actually.
Speaker B:You know, I hate to say it because I love America and all that, but I think we are at the point where unless there's, you know, in the military, if you're marching in this direction and you're going, headed for the edge of the cliff, they give one command and switch direction to the rear march and everybody in unison switches and marches back and everything's safe.
Speaker B:Yeah, but unless something like that happens that would drastically grab this country's attention.
Speaker B:Like look at 9 11, when 911 happened, I mean, they were Democrats, Republicans were praying on the steps of the White House or Congress and you know, the whole nation for about a year back in churches, churches were full.
Speaker B:You know, unless something drastic like that catches our attention, I have a feeling we're just going over the edge, you know, I mean, yeah, you can see the warning signs all around us as we're recording this.
Speaker B:Florida and the southeast US have been ravaged by not one, but two severe hurricanes just a week or so apart.
Speaker B:You know, matter of fact, I got two questions for you on that.
Speaker B:First, you know, I don't believe God sent this to punish Florida residents or North Carolina residents.
Speaker B:We're talking about Bible Belt people here, okay?
Speaker B:I believe these storms really are the work of the devil who can do nothing.
Speaker B:Think about this now without God allowing it to happen.
Speaker C:It's true.
Speaker B:So follow my thoughts here.
Speaker B:Right now we're three weeks old or something like that from probably the most important presidential election of our lifetime.
Speaker B:Every single vote is going to count in these Bible Belt states.
Speaker B:Polling places are destroyed, Polling machines, Voting machines are destroyed.
Speaker B:Roads are destroyed, homes are destroyed.
Speaker B:Millions of people are displaced.
Speaker B:How are they going to vote with the election hanging in the balance?
Speaker B:How are millions in this area?
Speaker B:Mostly Republican voters?
Speaker B:Not all, but in that area, let's just say the majority.
Speaker B:How are they going to be able to have their votes counted with all of this devastation?
Speaker B:The polling places for the most part are not going to be operational.
Speaker B:They can't even use vote by mail because many houses aren't going to be able to receive Mail.
Speaker B:You know, people aren't even living there.
Speaker B:They don't even know where they, you know, how is a post office going to forward their mail to them?
Speaker B:This has serious implications.
Speaker B:In fact, did you see the new report of an Afghan national rescued and brought to America during the evacuation.
Speaker B:He was arrested for planning a mass casualty attack that was going to take place on election day.
Speaker C:No, I know it's.
Speaker C:Well, it's like shooting yourself in the foot.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I've been trying to bring this up.
Speaker C:There is a book and I didn't, I don't know the author's name and I can't just pick one because I, I can't find it really fast.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:And it's a book that's called Eye for an Eye.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And it's a guy who, who wrote it that every time that the United States goes against Israel in a negative fashion or tries to get them divided, divided, a natural disaster happens in America.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker C:And we've been seeing this take place where just recently when you got the world supporting the antisemitism movement.
Speaker C:This is serious.
Speaker C:But when you have our own government siding more to that direction than supporting Israel, that's where these natural disasters tend to show up.
Speaker C:And so I'm thinking that, that this is a possibility to get our attention.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:So this calamity of having the Internet go down, or not the Internet but the grid go down I think would get people's attention, no?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I do believe that this is going to be short lived because you and I have seen where God is preparing us for beyond this circumstance.
Speaker C:But as we were talking earlier in the pre interview, the thing is that there's going to be some people who are in power, like to keep power and if the people who are in power feel that they're going to lose it, I got a feeling they have a plan B, C and D to be able to have this.
Speaker C:And interfering with the elections because that's where my prayers have been.
Speaker C:Lord, please don't let the election be interfered with this time around.
Speaker C:And so getting this to prepare us emotionally, spiritually, physically to be on a strong foundation for whatever happens, but then at the same time believing that God does have a plan and that we need to be able to put ourselves in that plan to participate.
Speaker C:Now you and I first got together because Prime Star publicity had contacted you about my first book, Healing the Nation.
Speaker C:Now for the listeners that are there, it is a PDF that is free that people can listen to on ZoeHealingCenter.net where they can go there.
Speaker C:Because in:Speaker C:He brought me somewhere to live.
Speaker C:The effects of the United States falling.
Speaker C:And the first thing is that when the Constitution falls, because we're getting close to a segment here, when the Constitution falls, the elitist take over and if you're not with them, you're going to be either enslaved or eliminated.
Speaker C:And I lived that event and it was so traumatic.
Speaker C:I had a hard time with it.
Speaker C:I didn't tell people with it for a long time, but it threw me into a cascade to where I have spent the last 12 years, 14 years trying to pray and take efforts to see that this doesn't happen.
Speaker C:So that I would rather see the United States fall apart because the Rapture took place rather than the destruction of America from within.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:And that's what we're looking at, what is going to go one way or the other.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:And a lot of reports that I've seen, you know, not recently, this probably a year or so ago, maybe a couple years, where part of FEMA's plan that they, an operational plan they have is actually to, you know, assist those who, you know, are.
Speaker B:They've lost their houses and all that.
Speaker B:We'll put them over here in these camps.
Speaker B:And the, the videos, you know, show the razor wire on the inside of the fences, not on the outside, you know, for their own safety, of course, you know, but yeah, usually if you're in a camp and it's for your safety, the razor wires on the outside of the camps to keep people from climbing over the fence and getting in, not on the inside that which would keep people from climbing over and getting out, you know, so once you go in, there's not coming back out.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, matter of fact, while we're talking about fema, it's been a couple years since they.
Speaker B:One of those report.
Speaker B:I'm gonna dig one of those up and find it again.
Speaker B:But, but let's talk about the FEMA response after Hurricane Helene and now, you know, whatever this last one was called.
Speaker B:Did you see the Glenn Beck commentary on all this?
Speaker C:Man, I'll tell you what, sometimes, you know, like when you have people that are giving their, their side of an issue, they're usually kind of calm and they just state the fast.
Speaker C:And it's kind of like a very, very, you know, even keel, so to speak, is using a term.
Speaker C:No, he went off.
Speaker C:He went off on this.
Speaker C:I mean, it got the best of because he is saying Listen, there's a huge double standard here, right?
Speaker C:These people are being neglected.
Speaker C:They're.
Speaker C:They're almost as if it's on purpose that they aren't stepping up and taking care of these people.
Speaker C:And then in adding insult to injury, when they did file.
Speaker C:And I saw YouTubes, but I don't know, I can't seem to find them now.
Speaker C:The YouTubes were.
Speaker C:People are saying, yeah, I went online and I applied for it, only to have them say, denied.
Speaker C:You know, so, you know.
Speaker C:Okay, so what's your.
Speaker C:What's your thoughts on this?
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, again, those in power want to hold on to power, and they want to put their.
Speaker B:Their resources with the.
Speaker B:With those that they figure they'll get the best benefit from.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, sure.
Speaker C:We'll.
Speaker B:We'll slide a little bit over here for them poor people that, you know, lost all that.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker B:But most of, you know, as a typical politician is gonna, you know, only put their emphasis in an area that's going to benefit them.
Speaker B:You know, and we've heard reports over and over again about, you know, the Democrats allowing all these illegal migrants to come into this nation because they're hoping that down the line, you know, we'll give you amnesty and all that, and all these people be voting for them, and they'll.
Speaker B:They won't have to worry about, you know, really campaigning for any further elections because they'll have their voter base intact.
Speaker B:And I keep seeing reports about how FEMA spent most of the money they have on these illegal immigrants.
Speaker B:And now additional funds are needed just to take care of American citizens impacted by disasters that FEMA is supposed to be in place to help them with.
Speaker B:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:It's just disgrace.
Speaker B:Disgraceful.
Speaker B:You know, J.D.
Speaker B:vance even put a thing out on YouTube about that.
Speaker B:Do you see that?
Speaker C:Yeah, there was a.
Speaker C:That's a very short one.
Speaker C:It was about a minute, 10 seconds where he took aim at that.
Speaker C:And the thing is, is that when they say we don't have the funds, that's.
Speaker C:That is a distortion now.
Speaker C:And the reason is, is.
Speaker C:Is that they create money out of thin air as it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Whenever they want it for their programs.
Speaker C:And this is a demographic of people that they just don't want to support because they don't.
Speaker C:Those people don't support them.
Speaker C:It's not Americans.
Speaker C:It's those that will help me further this position.
Speaker C:And everybody else is excluded.
Speaker C:That comes back to this thing about the elitism.
Speaker C:You know, once the elitism takes place, then it starts to go downhill for freedom.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Freedom has ended.
Speaker C:Liberty is gone.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:And again, I mean, we just talk about how all this leads to what we're living in.
Speaker B:The, the birth pangs are getting more and more frequent here as we enter the last days.
Speaker B:I mean, we're about out of time for today, and we haven't even touched on what's happening over in Israel right now.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But we need to take a look at all this and the buildup to the soon return of Jesus as well.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:I mean, did you see that Hundreds of missiles fired by Iran.
Speaker B:Israel still hasn't responded.
Speaker B:You know, and I'm, A lot of people say, well, maybe they just don't want to expand.
Speaker B:No, they're picking their time and place of choosing.
Speaker B:Well, they hit, you're gonna know it, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, people say, well, they should hit their nuclear facilities or, you know, the oil fields or whatever.
Speaker B:I, if that might be their plan.
Speaker B:And the reason they haven't done it yet is, you know, I've, I've seen reports where the nuclear strongholds for Iran are deep underground.
Speaker B:And, you know, you don't want to just drop some missiles down on top of that and not actually take it out, because then all you're going to do is stir the hornet's nest.
Speaker B:You know, when they know we can have 100% or 85% chance of success at what we're going to do, they'll do it.
Speaker B:You know, right now it's 50, 50, 60, 40, 70, 30.
Speaker B:Not, not good enough.
Speaker B:They want to make sure that when it, when they hit that target will be obliterated.
Speaker B:And, and that'll stop all this.
Speaker B:And that's, you know, people say, well, it's been a couple weeks and Israel still hasn't done nothing.
Speaker B:Maybe they're just scared of Iran now.
Speaker B:They're, It'll be their time and choosing their place.
Speaker B:Their time, their choosing.
Speaker B:And, you know, just like when they took out the.
Speaker B:All the.
Speaker B:I still laugh.
Speaker B:They took out the leaders of Hezbollah, then they took out the replacement of the leader of Hezbollah, then they took out the replacement of the replacement of the leader of Hezbollah.
Speaker B:Next guy says, I don Job.
Speaker B:That's where they want to get it.
Speaker B:They were, no, you.
Speaker B:No, I don't want the promotion.
Speaker B:I'm good.
Speaker B:I'm good.
Speaker B:Being a flunky down here in the streets, you know, and so that, that's, that's the message they're sending.
Speaker B:And like I said, it'll, you know, we are there.
Speaker B:You know, as we shared in the beginning, the Bible's very clear that there will be an increase in intensity of the birth pangs in these last days.
Speaker B:And I believe we've established the fact today that labor pains are increasing.
Speaker B:Don't you.
Speaker C:Oh, yes, definitely.
Speaker C:And sometimes what happens is that when you look at this scenario, because there's people on both sides of this issue, and when it comes down to it, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker C:Israel is small.
Speaker C:It's got a small number of people.
Speaker C:Why are they so hated by the vast majority of the people that surround them?
Speaker C:You know, it doesn't make sense at all.
Speaker C:And so people will say, well, they, they need to give up that land.
Speaker C:Well, the thing is, is that that ain't going to happen, you know, because God has given it to them a long time ago and they are going to protect it, and he is helping them to protect it.
Speaker C:And so you have this victory after victory that's taking place there, but the hatred is just unbelievably lopsided, and it doesn't make sense.
Speaker C:And so then it comes down to the, the world end where the whole world turns against them, but yet God is on their side.
Speaker C:And then you usher in the, the last seven years of the 70th week of Daniel, that scenario.
Speaker C:I hope we're gone by then because we got pre trib, mid trib and post tribulation.
Speaker C:Well, I'm a pre trip person.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:And so I'm hoping that.
Speaker C:But when it comes down to it, it don't make sense that they are that.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:So I had somebody say, well, you know, should they defend themselves?
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:And I'm thinking, yes, you have somebody who have 100 missiles, you know, in your area, and you think to yourself, oh, I can't defend myself, Right?
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:It doesn't.
Speaker C:It comes back down to this.
Speaker C:I'll say it again.
Speaker C:It doesn't make sense.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Well, Tom, all this been interesting as usual, and I'd like you to pray with someone right now who may be listening to this and realize I need Jesus.
Speaker B:Could you pray with them right now?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Thank you for this opportunity.
Speaker C:Dear Father, I want to listen.
Speaker C:I want to lift up to you to listeners that are listening to our conversation here, because we want to bring people to Jesus and also, Lord, we want the people who do know Jesus not to be afraid because that is happening when they get a glimpse of what time frame that they are actually living in and that the end is coming to an end.
Speaker C:And that it is closer than they expect.
Speaker C:They respond with fear.
Speaker C:Please take that fear away and help them to become bold evangelists and prepare.
Speaker C:And for those that haven't received Jesus as Savior and Lord, you know, there are two ways of looking at this, and that is going to heaven by good works or receiving the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ who paid the price for it.
Speaker C:And that's the one that God supports.
Speaker C:And so I pray that the person that is not saved, I ask that they would reach out to Jesus and pray with me right now.
Speaker C:Dear Father God, I thank you for your son Jesus and the work he did on the cross.
Speaker C:By paying the price for my sins, I acknowledge to you, Father, that I am a sinner.
Speaker C:Please forgive me.
Speaker C:Now I invite Jesus to come into my heart, come into my life, and I want to live for him and for the Christian that is in turmoil.
Speaker C:I pray, Father, that you would strengthen them to become bold in your service and that they be building their strong foundation even right now, so that they can endure the things that are coming in Jesus name.
Speaker C:Amen.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Tom, this has been so interesting.
Speaker B:How can someone reach out to you?
Speaker B:Ask a question, maybe get more information.
Speaker C:and that is healingthenation:Speaker B:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker C:The books that I have written, I got five of them for free on Zoe Healing Nation.
Speaker C:No, excuse me, ZoeHealingCenter.net and in the book tab there are PDFs where people can download them for free.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:I'll put links all this in the show notes below.
Speaker B:Folks, our discussion today was not to instill fear, but faith.
Speaker B:Faith in the name of Jesus, faith in the Bible, faith in biblical prophecy.
Speaker B:Faith that none of this is happening by happenstance.
Speaker B:None of this is taking God by surprise at all.
Speaker B:But all of this is leading to what we call the end times.
Speaker B:If you prayed that prayer with Tom Don, reach out and let him know.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Go to church.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Walk by faith, not by sight.
Speaker B:Don't be moved by what you see or hear.
Speaker B:Be moved only by the word of God.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:Tom, thank you for coming back on the program, catching us up on what's happening right before our very eyes, man.
Speaker B:I do appreciate it, brother.
Speaker C:Thank you, Pastor Bob.
Speaker C:And we always have a good conversation and I look forward to next time.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker B:Praise God.
Speaker B:Folks, that's all the time we have for today for Tom, Don and myself.
Speaker B:Pastor Bob, remind you, be blessed in all that you do.
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